Posts by Wasanelder Once

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"Apostates " how honest are we?

by closed in

as i mentioned in another post i used to serve as an elder for 2 decades.

i was involved in a number of jc.

some i dealt with are good friends now.

Wasanelder Once

Great point closed. Let's just say that everyone is the same, wait, that was JW land. Oops. Fact is, nope.

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A Sister Stops the CO's Bullying

by Simon Templar in

we had the co a few weeks ago.

i waited a few weeks for time to pass to post.

we now have a new co. he started in september and his first visit to our congo was a little while ago.

That sister has been around enough to know these ass hat clowns are blowhards and really what can they do to her? Make her stop pioneering? I doubt that would bother her. They can't delete her from any other privileges for being authentic. Dolts.

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Slightly different approach - JW my tradition

by closed in

hello everybody :) i have been visiting this forum for some time.

i noticed that many can't really free from the past in the org despite many years outside of jw.

i was awaken with a bang.

Wasanelder Once

Closed, it sounds as if your family are all in the cult and you have too much invested to leave it. That's not too much different than many here. I think the difference is you may not have experienced some of the things others have which make them aggressive, ie: family being cruel, blood sacrifice of children or family or financial ruin because of some criminal "brother". Worst of all you haven't experienced the sexual abuse of your child or self by "the most loving people on earth". I don't know though, 20 years is a long time not to be screwed by some loving brother. Its your choice and it sounds as if you won't take any BS from these guys. Without any intellectual tie to the doctrines of the WT you will eventually drop out I am sure. Stay safe and don't bleed to death!

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Hello, this is my first post

by noralee in

jw
friends

hello, this is my first post, i would like to introduce myself and say thank you to every one on this forum, you have been a lifeline to me these last few years.. i had been a jw for 30 years when i walked away a few years ago disgusted by the treatment victims of child abuse, domestic abuse and rape receive from the wtbts.. at first i thought it was a local problem, elders personal opinions, the way they handled the situations, imperfect men etc., until i checked out jehovahs witnesses and child abuse/domestic abuse online.

that's when i realized they had the same modus operandi worldwide.

that led me here, tbuo this forum, and then to crisis of conscience, jw facts, watchtower documents, jw survey, old watchtower literature and cd s, reading a couple of steve hassans books, and more recently exiting the jw cult.. the feelings of shock, betrayal, anger at the wtbts, angry with myself for being so gullible, depression, reflection, loneliness, have taken their toll.

Wasanelder Once

Noralee

now is free

has come to see

we ain't bad

tee hee.

Dumb I know but what the heck. Very pleased for you and looking forward to your sharing more info that others will benefit from. Don't be so hard on yourself. We were told to be like children when we studied because children are humble. Well, we know what they allow to happen to children. Its no wonder they abused us spiritually.

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If JWs were to change their name what would they change it to?

by slimboyfat in

was it 1931 when they adopted jehovah's witnesses?

(at the time with lower case w) isn't it about time now they changed name again?

i mean everything else is changing why not the name!

Wasanelder Once

Larry

62

Umbertoecho here.

by umbertoecho in

hello people.. i'm tired and a bit sick at the moment but i can't let anyone think that this is going to go away.... i am able to tell you a few things in order to prevent any confusion in the minds of those who are thinking that nothing will come of this arc;that nothing will effect the wtbts in america and other places.. i have been there and given my testimony.

helen milroy and her assistants were there along with another group of people who are there to lend assistance if you crack up at any time during or after the hearing.

i did not crack up but can see how this happens.. security is tight and anonymity is sacred to them as they want to protect all who come forward.

Wasanelder Once

You must be compensated for the help you have sought and any future counseling obviously needed as this all heats up. Strength and determination to you in your fight. Though its not your motive I hope you get a wad of cash.

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Have we become what we despise so much?

by Tenacious in

the majority of members who tend to join this forum have been hurt possibly even traumatized sometimes to the point of wanting to end their lives.

upon joining the forum, new members are welcomed with open arms, welcome messages start pouring in, "likes" are freely given, a false sense of security is promoted where a member is free to speak his mind without having to worry about the wt gestapo.

again, similar to how potential converts are welcomed and "love bombed" upon entering a kh for the first time.

Wasanelder Once

How dare you expose the human condition! I don't know if a heretic like you can be tolerated. Perhaps we should Deforumship you! Everyone joining is an unknown and once they become an opinion expressed someone is always going to take an opposite opinion to task. I think its more a matter of you can't love everyone and everyone has an opinion. After all, it is the internet. Don't let it get you down T. I've been around a number of years and they like me, they really like me!

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Where to draw the line: how Platonism haunts our discourse and the search for exorcism

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

in the discussion about race i adopted a position i am not entirely comfortable with.

i think there is a sense in which it is useful to distinguish categories of description that can be fruitfully defended (apples and bananas) and those that cannot (caucasian or other racial descriptions for example).

but there is a more fundamental sense in which i believe that everything is socially constructed, every single line you can think of.

Wasanelder Once

I like turtles but now I'm not sure if its an acceptable assertion since turtles may, in and of themselves, not be that helpful.

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Vanilla ISIS & Y'All Qaeda: Oregon Gunmen Mocked On Social Media

by Simon in

i'm crying laughing at some of the hashtags in this article:.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/yall-qaeda-vanilla-isis_568a3421e4b06fa68882bb6d.

if this does one thing, it shows up the craziness of the claim that an armed militia "standing up to the government" has any role in a modern democratic society.

Wasanelder Once

Cut the power and water. Make them spend their money, then use music as they did in Panama to Noriega, play songs Aryan militias hate such as Sexual Healing, anything by Rick James or Prince, the Barney theme song, maybe a little NWA? Play it LOUD and repeatedly 24/7. I bet they start shooting! I would love to see the white boys get their boxers in a wad.

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My First post

by Simple Minds in

i have been lurking on this site for 3 years and this is my fist post.

i would like to thank everyone for helping me wake up.

i was baptized at 24, married at 25, ms for 18 years mentally in for 24 years but started to wake up 3 years ago doing research to give public talks, and the actions of arrogant and narcissistic brothers and sisters did not help.

Wasanelder Once

Sometime waking up to TTAT feels like realizing you are not in a communal shower but a gas chamber! The reality is that you are now outside the gas chamber and you now know YOUR LOVED ONES are still in it which has its own set of anxieties. Take a breath. Relax. I don't know how much of your letter is fiction, meaning all the symptoms, depression etc as part of the fade. Carry on and you will be fine. Many here have had to sail similarly treacherous waters.